ironrock 3link vs claytons 4link?

Thanatos · 02-03-2010, 07:31 PM

i have an 01 wj i am wanting to lift. i would like others opinions on this also. i really want some flex/droop on about 6.5" and 33" tires. i'm not scared of trimming either. please share your thoughts or experiences on this.

SaturnICL · 02-03-2010, 08:16 PM

Easy! Go with the Rock Krawler long arm system! They had issues in the past but it has had a new owner for awhile and they have far surpassed/remedied the issues of the previouse owner. Strongest RE's, best articulation, strongest control arms, etc.

Compare for yourself....
http://www.rockkrawler.com/?r_intro=1

My 99 in Moab GSW 09' RK 4 1/2" lift and 37's:

First flex:

Thanatos · 02-03-2010, 08:51 PM

nice! thanks for your input.

Dels383TA · 02-03-2010, 10:53 PM

Why do you want 6.5 Inch of lift if you are going to trim, I am in 33s and only 3.5 inch RE super flex lift,I have longer shocks and am runnig a 3 link in front, cut 2 inchs out of the fender and the rear to make room, rolled the seems and a set of off set rims and off you go, the big lift is not as benificial if you are still only planning on running 33s as you axles are still you loest point.

Thanatos · 02-04-2010, 08:17 AM

this is the kind o info i am looking for thanks. i dont want to go real big with a high center of gravity. i just want alot of flex and really lot of droop.

Thanatos · 02-04-2010, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dels383TA

Why do you want 6.5 Inch of lift if you are going to trim, I am in 33s and only 3.5 inch RE super flex lift,I have longer shocks and am runnig a 3 link in front, cut 2 inchs out of the fender and the rear to make room, rolled the seems and a set of off set rims and off you go, the big lift is not as benificial if you are still only planning on running 33s as you axles are still you loest point.

do you have any action pics to share?

Thanatos · 02-04-2010, 05:51 PM

are there any wj's on here with 3link front and rear?

Thanatos · 02-04-2010, 05:55 PM

i'm really looking fo alot of droop more than anything.

faststang1 · 02-04-2010, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Thanatos

i'm really looking fo alot of droop more than anything.

droop isnt everything...I got claytons on my ZJ 5.5 lift with 11in fox 2.0's and I have really good flex..I could get more more out of it but drive line is at its limit and I have a Yoke Type Multiple Double Cardan..
Im set up for crawlind and dunning!!

Thanatos · 02-04-2010, 08:03 PM

ok but should i go 3 or 4 link. opinions please.

OverkillZJ · 02-04-2010, 09:34 PM

A lot of us wouldn't run Rock Kraweler if it was free

Thanatos · 02-04-2010, 09:51 PM

they that bad huh. the bushings look like they wouldnt give much for flex.

faststang1 · 02-04-2010, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OverkillZJ

A lot of us wouldn't run Rock Kraweler if it was free

I agree...I would go with iron rock before Rock krawler!!
or if u want a better kit Go with clayton or TnT customs..U love any of these two kits!!
by the way iron rock,TnT and clayton are radius arms not 3links or 4links.RK is a 3link

Dels383TA · 02-04-2010, 11:17 PM

Here are a couple pics of my Jeep with the 3 link and the stock arm in front.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...3&id=592850688

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...subj=615445483
I have more pics some where but you get the idea.

SaturnICL · 02-04-2010, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OverkillZJ

A lot of us wouldn't run Rock Kraweler if it was free

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Originally Posted by faststang1

I agree...I would go with iron rock before Rock krawler!!
or if u want a better kit Go with clayton or TnT customs..U love any of these two kits!!
by the way iron rock,TnT and clayton are radius arms not 3links or 4links.RK is a 3link

Prime examples of old bad sentiments.

Clatons is a radius arm design... Buy a second set of bushings as you will need to replace them. (downfall of the design) 2" square tube compared to 2" solid. Flex joints require a special tool to re-build. (RK can be rebuilt with a couple of wrenches) Ask anyone who wheeled with 311WJ and myself in Moab how the RK performs off road. Especially Shinobi who has the Clatons 6" and wheels with me often which works better!

Didn't realize TnT made lifts for the WJ (couldn't find info on their site)

MUDDTRACKS · 02-05-2010, 09:07 AM

Been running my RK kit 6-7 years now. 3 Link works better then the radius arm set up. Plus there's no binding or bushings going bad after a good season of wheeling. And from what I see all the radius arm set-ups unload in the front a cause a ton of wheel hope on steep hills

faststang1 · 02-05-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SaturnICL

Prime examples of old bad sentiments.

Clatons is a radius arm design... Buy a second set of bushings as you will need to replace them. (downfall of the design) 2" square tube compared to 2" solid. Flex joints require a special tool to re-build. (RK can be rebuilt with a couple of wrenches) Ask anyone who wheeled with 311WJ and myself in Moab how the RK performs off road. Especially Shinobi who has the Clatons 6" and wheels with me often which works better!

Didn't realize TnT made lifts for the WJ (couldn't find info on their site)

Yep theres a few down side to a radius design but I havent had problems with it.Changing bushing is not a big deal..takes like 30mins
As for wheel hop,I have only got it if I have 20psi in my tire,I normaly run 8-10pis..I havent need to rebuild any of my JJ's I check them all and still nice and tight and I work them hard in the dunnes.Im not a big fan of bolt on kits, other than TnT,U got to call them for the WJ kit theres only like 2 on the road so far.

Thanatos · 02-05-2010, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dels383TA

Here are a couple pics of my Jeep with the 3 link and the stock arm in front.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...3&id=592850688

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...subj=615445483
I have more pics some where but you get the idea.

do you have any othe shots other that the ones on facebook. i am not a member of that crap.

Thanatos · 02-05-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MUDDTRACKS

Been running my RK kit 6-7 years now. 3 Link works better then the radius arm set up. Plus there's no binding or bushings going bad after a good season of wheeling. And from what I see all the radius arm set-ups unload in the front a cause a ton of wheel hope on steep hills

do you have a build thread or some good pics so i can learn from you design. do you have any flex shots?

Nick · 02-05-2010, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Thanatos

do you have a build thread or some good pics so i can learn from you design. do you have any flex shots?

http://www.mallcrawlin.com/forum//forumdisplay.php?f=58 about 80% of the rigs in there are long arm start reading you will find everything you need to know.

Dels383TA · 02-05-2010, 09:14 PM

OK here are some pics that arent on FB

Lost a rear spring in this one.

Hope you like em, not great but it has gone farther but just cant seem to find any pics.

Thanatos · 02-06-2010, 12:47 AM

cool pics man.

Thanatos · 02-06-2010, 11:36 PM

OK! what i am trying to get at is what is better in your opinion /experience. 3 link vs 4 link front setup. and any and all pics are welcome along with suggestions.

bwhicker649 · 02-07-2010, 01:31 AM

I have the IRO long arms up front. I think over all for the price it is a great product. One major down fall in my book at least would be there pore pinion adj. set up. It really seams to hold up well though with no binding issues or anything of that nature.

Thanatos · 02-07-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bwhicker649

I have the IRO long arms up front. I think over all for the price it is a great product. One major down fall in my book at least would be there pore pinion adj. set up. It really seams to hold up well though with no binding issues or anything of that nature.

would you have any flex pixs. i would like to see what the iro can do compared to the claytons, rustys, ect.

02-03-2010, 07:31 PM	#1
Thanatos Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tenn. Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0	ironrock 3link vs claytons 4link? i have an 01 wj i am wanting to lift. i would like others opinions on this also. i really want some flex/droop on about 6.5" and 33" tires. i'm not scared of trimming either. please share your thoughts or experiences on this.

02-03-2010, 08:16 PM	#2
SaturnICL Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sparks, NV Posts: 63 Rep Power: 0	Re: ironrock 3link vs claytons 4link? Easy! Go with the Rock Krawler long arm system! They had issues in the past but it has had a new owner for awhile and they have far surpassed/remedied the issues of the previouse owner. Strongest RE's, best articulation, strongest control arms, etc. Compare for yourself.... http://www.rockkrawler.com/?r_intro=1 My 99 in Moab GSW 09' RK 4 1/2" lift and 37's: First flex: __________________ 99' WJ Custom LA lift with 14" Fox coilovers, FW Super 60 front and Sterling 10.5 rear locked, Custom front and rear bumpers, raised gas tank, boat sides, 37's and lots of fender trimming

02-03-2010, 08:51 PM	#3
Thanatos Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tenn. Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0	Re: ironrock 3link vs claytons 4link? nice! thanks for your input.

02-03-2010, 10:53 PM	#4
Dels383TA Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New Brunswick,Canada Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	Re: ironrock 3link vs claytons 4link? Why do you want 6.5 Inch of lift if you are going to trim, I am in 33s and only 3.5 inch RE super flex lift,I have longer shocks and am runnig a 3 link in front, cut 2 inchs out of the fender and the rear to make room, rolled the seems and a set of off set rims and off you go, the big lift is not as benificial if you are still only planning on running 33s as you axles are still you loest point.

02-04-2010, 08:17 AM	#5
Thanatos Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tenn. Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0	Re: ironrock 3link vs claytons 4link? this is the kind o info i am looking for thanks. i dont want to go real big with a high center of gravity. i just want alot of flex and really lot of droop.

02-04-2010, 05:51 PM	#7
Thanatos Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tenn. Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0	Re: ironrock 3link vs claytons 4link? are there any wj's on here with 3link front and rear?

02-04-2010, 05:55 PM	#8
Thanatos Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tenn. Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0	Re: ironrock 3link vs claytons 4link? i'm really looking fo alot of droop more than anything.

02-04-2010, 08:03 PM	#10
Thanatos Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tenn. Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0	Re: ironrock 3link vs claytons 4link? ok but should i go 3 or 4 link. opinions please.

02-04-2010, 09:34 PM	#11
OverkillZJ Pissy Administrator Lifetime Supporter Admin Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 7,680 Rep Power: 113	Re: ironrock 3link vs claytons 4link? A lot of us wouldn't run Rock Kraweler if it was free __________________ 1986 Suzuki – coil springs, long arms, and 35’s 1997 ZJ-Buggy: 42’s, needs to be redesigned. 1998 5.9 (Grand Cherokee, stock for now) 2004 Toyota Corolla - Daily Driver (the only thing I wouldn't be tempted to modify!

02-04-2010, 09:51 PM	#12
Thanatos Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tenn. Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0	Re: ironrock 3link vs claytons 4link? they that bad huh. the bushings look like they wouldnt give much for flex.

02-04-2010, 11:17 PM	#14
Dels383TA Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New Brunswick,Canada Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	Re: ironrock 3link vs claytons 4link? Here are a couple pics of my Jeep with the 3 link and the stock arm in front. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...3&id=592850688 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...subj=615445483 I have more pics some where but you get the idea.

02-05-2010, 09:07 AM	#16
MUDDTRACKS Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Gainesville Florida Posts: 597 Rep Power: 29	Re: ironrock 3link vs claytons 4link? Been running my RK kit 6-7 years now. 3 Link works better then the radius arm set up. Plus there's no binding or bushings going bad after a good season of wheeling. And from what I see all the radius arm set-ups unload in the front a cause a ton of wheel hope on steep hills

02-05-2010, 09:14 PM	#21
Dels383TA Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New Brunswick,Canada Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	Re: ironrock 3link vs claytons 4link? OK here are some pics that arent on FB Lost a rear spring in this one. Hope you like em, not great but it has gone farther but just cant seem to find any pics.

02-06-2010, 12:47 AM	#22
Thanatos Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tenn. Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0	Re: ironrock 3link vs claytons 4link? cool pics man.

02-06-2010, 11:36 PM	#23
Thanatos Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tenn. Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0	Re: 3link vs 4link? opinions please. OK! what i am trying to get at is what is better in your opinion /experience. 3 link vs 4 link front setup. and any and all pics are welcome along with suggestions.

02-07-2010, 01:31 AM	#24
bwhicker649 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: il Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	Re: ironrock 3link vs claytons 4link? I have the IRO long arms up front. I think over all for the price it is a great product. One major down fall in my book at least would be there pore pinion adj. set up. It really seams to hold up well though with no binding issues or anything of that nature. __________________ 96 zj 4.0 IRO fla RE rsa 4.5'' 4:56's locked 8.8 locked hp30 35's Last edited by bwhicker649; 02-07-2010 at 01:33 AM.

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