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I'm looking to buy a ZJ now to replace my built XJ.
I'll have $2000 in student loan returns coming soon to spend.
I am finding ZJs in this price range, but many of the 5.2's are high mileage(150,000+).
What kind of life should I expect from one of these engines? I know the 4.0's last forever, and I'm fine with finding one with a 4.0, but a decent V8 would be cool too if I can count on it lasting for some time.
thanks!
As long as you take care of them - same as the damn 4-slow. If you don't maintain a 4.0, it won't last for shit. If you don't maintain a 5.2, it won't last for shit.
do it right the first time, you'll regret buying the 4.slow. Get the 5.2, people report into the 300,00 mile range regularly, im at 120,000 and running like new, plus there is a ton of aftermarket for the 5.2
I'm at 190,000 and the only issues I've had with the engine were the little PITA hose on top of the water pump but under the accessory mount and the usual rear main seal and intake plenum gasket.
Might want to replace the idler and tensioner pulleys - mine let go around 175k within a couple hundred miles of eachother and it's cheap insurance. I wouldn't consider that a problem with the 5.2 by any means though. All in all, with regular maintainance, I consider it to be a really good engine and definitely better than the 4.0.
It really is all about how you care for the engine. if you let it run hot or low on oil a lot you are going to have issues.
no matter what, go with the 5.2. i have a 95 limited, and its awesome. a friend of mine has the 4.slow, and he hates it even after $400+ in upgrades. mine will run his down no problem. we went to the strip once, and i gave him 4 links. i still kicked his ass by 3 and mine is stock. yea thats right, i drag race it, and drift it on occasion too!
just make sure you check it out really good. when i bought mine the motor mounts were shredded, and it leaked everywhere. it only had 89,000 on it, so i figured it would be ok. it has all most 130,000 now and still runs like a raped ape.
engine is good tranny not so good
It depends on the year, the '93-'95 46RH is apparently more reliable than the later 44RE. I have 210K on my '93 with the original engine and trans. It's had fluid changes and band adjustments on schedule. Most people don't maintain their transmissions correctly.
dude, please, please, PLEASE do not buy the 4.0. It is marginally powerful enough for the zj in stock trim, and immediately becomes inadequate with any additional weight. Any mpg advantages you may have had are almost moot because the 5.2 doesn't have to work anywhere near as hard to push the pig down the road.
I hated every second of my 4.0. If my zj had been a 5.2, I'd still have it.
Buy the 5.2, do your oil changes, and take care of it. Even a rebuild wouldn't be the end of the world.
Paul
like said before
the 46RH is an excellent transmission.. ive never had any problems with mine
oh and my 5.2 is at 150k without any major issues ( aside from the usual plenum gasket.. but i replaced it with a Hughes Engines plenum plate and gasket so i shouldnt be having that problem again )
My V8 (5.9) is at 183xxx and running strong. Its completly stock minus tune up stuff and a water pump.
My 5.2 just ticked 180k miles, I replaced all the gaskets on the engine at 150k to stop some valve cover leaks, and the typical intake plenum leak. Runs like a champ. Burns a little oil when it's due for a change.
Just seafoam'd it and it cured a lifter tick and cold running knock (think it was a carbon ping)
I sold one of my ZJ's last week with the 5.2. It had 310K on the clock, which was actually less than the actual mileage when you consider the 35's and stock gearing. The motor was never opened up... not even a gasket replacement. The accessories (A/C, P/S, water pump etc) were replaced when needed but the motor itself stayed strong and solid since I purchased it in 2000, with only 80K on the clock.
The rear main did leak, but not that badly.
The 44re is a different story... mine went at 170K, but after the rebuild I had no problems up to the sale last week with 310K.
Regular oil changes, tuneups, and proper diagnosis and remedies for simple problems will keep the engine going for as long as you'd like. Small problems tend to turn into big ones when ignored, so pay attention if you'd like to get the most out of what I found to be a great powerplant. I'd never take a 4.0 over the 5.2, ever.
270,000 miles+ on my 1995 V8 and 46RH and still running good. Doesn't smoke, leaks a bit from the rear main seal, but not enough to worry about.
Trans still seems to work fine, except I am about to change the fluid and filter, so it will probably start falling apart in the next week or two.... That's how these things seem to work....
I am really glad I got the V8, if only for the fact that I don't have to think that about what I "shoulda got...." for as long as I own it. Face it, they are so dirt cheap you can afford to find exactly what you want if you look for it. I paid $700 for mine.
I have a 97 with 280,000 mi. on the 5.2. No real problems, just dont use champion plugs.
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