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02-08-2008, 11:24 PM
It seems like there are a lot of threads on ZJ steering upgrades and not so many on WJs. The box on my WJ is leaking pretty bad, worn out, and I need to replace it. Can anyone help me with what my options are? I'd rather upgrade instead of buying a stock reman for 200 bucks.
02-09-2008, 12:27 AM
I was in the same boat...I just picked up a used pump and steering box from an 03 with <50k for $75. I couldn't find any upgrades for the bastard WJ so figured it was good enough. I'd definitely like to know if there are any upgrades available...
02-09-2008, 12:33 AM
Will the J20 fit? What's the deal fellows?
02-09-2008, 09:45 AM
well I have never seen a WJ gearbox in person but I just looked up a pic on autozone and the WJ box does not look like the standard style gearboxes the zj's,tj,yj,sj,j10,j20's use...... so I would say it would take some fabbin to get a J20 to work in a WJ
Originally Posted by Krash80
02-09-2008, 04:30 PM
Good God man.
Maybe I'll find a manual on how to upgrade the WJ box. I'd call PSC or one of the other pump producers, but I know it would end up costing waaaaaaay too much then I am willing to spend.
02-09-2008, 05:25 PM
I pulled the box on my parts '99, & it's def. different than the other boxes I've seen
02-09-2008, 06:05 PM
haha...yay.
02-11-2008, 10:59 PM
You could do a J20 box but you have to rebuild the "frame rail". Just get another stocker and save yourself the headache.
http://www.burnsvilleoffroad.com/articles/03_02.aspx
You can always drill and tap the stock box too for hydro assist.
02-11-2008, 11:24 PM
Yea I suppose so. I found one for 170 with a warranty, plus it would be easier to tap it out for hydraulic assist while it is out of the jeep. Does anyone know the toughness of the WJ pump? I figured some other WJ guys with bigger than 33" tires would be the people to ask.
02-12-2008, 12:35 AM
Just bought one on ebay for 175 dollars - 50 dollars for the core charge
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/POWER...2em118Q2el1247
02-12-2008, 01:45 AM
the pump isn't any different than others, I used the one from my parts 99 on my 5.9. The resevoirs were diefferent, but the pump itself is identical.
02-12-2008, 01:49 AM
Yea, I guess it's good enough for now.
02-12-2008, 08:29 PM
I've run for 2 years now with a tapped stock box and stock pump with 39s. No problems yet.
02-12-2008, 08:48 PM
Well I would say that is good enough for me
02-13-2008, 01:26 AM
Yeah but 39's aren't THAT big
02-13-2008, 01:40 AM
Surrrrrrre...
02-14-2008, 12:47 PM
Okay Baby Jeep.Yeah but 39's aren't THAT big
Hows things Ryan?
02-14-2008, 02:31 PM
Haha, they're good...making the long drive South to GSW this year?
02-14-2008, 02:59 PM
while doing all of the stuff you talked about you could do this mod to the stock pump as well, i did it with my pump and it made a world of difference to the steering effort, and could be helpfull if your running hydro assist as it makes a stock pump flow better
http://westtexasoffroad.homestead.co...rsteering.html
It was a jeep thing, but that shit broke
02-14-2008, 05:45 PM
Nah, I'm going the other way to Alaska this year.
Brett
02-15-2008, 08:25 PM
thought I would put in my 2cents. I was checking into this not to long ago and I went to eastside custom truck here in kirkland washington they got ahold of PSC, and I guess there is 3 different types of pump and box setups, but what I was going to do and prob still will as my rig is always going to see pavement at some time, PSC will make a custom box and pump for my rig-Price is real steap @ $1300 but would be a factory replacement with everything tapped for hydro and would easily be able to crank a 40+" tire with out hydro, they said it would take about a week and a half and they would need my exhisting pump and box to fab the parts, although this is the most expensive route I am not to sure how hydro assist would feel on the road. this is something for the future no need now but I think would be a great upgrade.
But you guys no more than me so please let me know what you think.
02-16-2008, 09:49 PM
Tapping the stock box isn't that difficult. You just need a rebuild kit (seals). Then all you need is a ram, 2 hoses and 4 fittings. I'm into mine for about $150. Street feel is good. My Jeep was my daily driver until about 2 months ago when I got my CTD. I've driven 2 trips from Northern Alberta, Canada to Moab and back with no issues.
If you really want to spend $1300 then find someone that can rebuild the frame rail like in the link I posted above. Then that way you can use an easy to find box and nothing will really be custom for parts. That way when $#!T goes south, parts are easy to come by.
This however is my own opinion, take it for what its worth.
The only thing I may do is either the pump mod or see aboot adapting an aftermarket pump.
02-16-2008, 10:32 PM
Do you have anymore information about tapping the pump for hydro assist? If I have the reman pump out of the vehicle I was going to do the texas mods in the link before, and for the hell of it, I might as well tap it and plug it until I get a ram and decide to go hydro assist. Thanks
02-17-2008, 06:16 AM
You don't have to do anything to the pump.
I'll see if I can dig up my pix of drilling and tapping the steering box sometime later today.
Its 3am and I can't frickin sleep.
02-17-2008, 02:53 PM
der. the box...my mistake
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